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Wow. So sad. Unthinkable. While I don't share all of his views I also have not been through what he has. Tragic. I think suicide does not end the pain, it only transfers it to those left behind. He would say that is uninformed, maybe it is. I have seen first hand the aftermath of these tragedies. He has good words. It was a compelling read. If only it serves to help others.

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jkatz
Vaporman87 wrote :

For members of this site who have been visitors to I-Mockery, tragedy has befallen its overseer. Roger's wife of 20 years lost her life to depression. He has posted an amazing and poignant tribute to his Marie, and I encourage us all to read it and let it make a difference in our lives.

Pray for him.
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I read this the other day. Been reading the site for years and I never would've guessed his wife was troubled because they always looked so happy together. Rog was...
is a very funny and creative guy. Re was very artistically talented. They were one of the least deserving people this could have happened to.
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The women of New Vegas ask me a lot if there's a Mrs. New Vegas. Well, of course there is! You're her. And you're still just as perfect as the day we met.
ThatDudeintheHoodie
As someone who is bi polar, I feel bad for his wife and what kind of nightmare she has been in. Best we can do is support Roger in his time of need. 
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Mr Magic
That's sad. People always think suicide is the answer to life's problems. But who are they kidding? Only themselves.
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"Magic can happen to you."

ThatDudeintheHoodie

Mr.Magic, I've been down that road and I'll say this, there's more to it than that. To them, they see themselves as a burden and see that as a way to not only end their suffering, but to relieve that burden off of others.

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Vaporman87

It’s like Roger explains in his tribute... depression is a liar. A very convincing one. It’s victims believe everyone will be better off without them.

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ThatDudeintheHoodie
Vaporman87 wrote :

It’s like Roger explains in his tribute... depression is a liar. A very convincing one. It’s victims believe everyone will be better off without them.

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Exactly
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jkatz
ThatDudeintheHoodie wrote :

Mr.Magic, I've been down that road and I'll say this, there's more to it than that. To them, they see themselves as a burden and see that as a way to not only end their suffering, but to relieve that burden off of others.

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I'm diagnosed with clinical depression, and yup, that's pretty much exactly how it feels sometimes.
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The women of New Vegas ask me a lot if there's a Mrs. New Vegas. Well, of course there is! You're her. And you're still just as perfect as the day we met.
ThatDudeintheHoodie
jkatz wrote :

ThatDudeintheHoodie wrote :


Mr.Magic, I've been down that road and I'll say this, there's more to it than that. To them, they see themselves as a burden and see that as a way to not only end their suffering, but to relieve that burden off of others.

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I'm diagnosed with clinical depression, and yup, that's pretty much exactly how it feels sometimes.
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Yep, as I mentioned before, I'm bipolar. 
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blueluigi
Mr Magic wrote :

That's sad. People always think suicide is the answer to life's problems. But who are they kidding? Only themselves.
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I had a feeling you were going to say something like that, as I have seen you shown some ignorance about suicide in other threads on this site. I'm not sure if I'm the only one who noticed that. As somebody who has experienced depression before in my life (and still do to some extent), I shake my head at reading that comment.

I won't go too much into too much detail as to where I've been as far as depression goes, as a lot of it is personal. Some of it is partially why I haven't made videos on my Youtube channel. However, there was actually one point in my life where I was feeling this deep depression where I was nearly suicidal in a way I never felt before in my life, and haven't felt since. That was after I took this anti-psychotic drug that my psychologist prescribed to me. The first few months of taking it made me feel really great about myself. Better than I have in a long time. But then, a few months afterward is when the drug hit me, and caused me to go through depression... and it's a very heavy depression that was affecting me in a way that I don't even know how to describe. It was a very high level of depression where literally nothing I was doing was making me happy in anyway. Everything that I enjoyed before was not giving me pleasure whatsoever, and I was feeling this high level of depression I never felt before.

What I was feeling was a very deep painful feeling that may have nearly led me to being suicidal. The best way I can describe it is that it wasn't physical pain, but it was still a very intense painful feeling that was so overwhelming to me at the time. That feeling of depression made it feel like everything was hopeless, and that there was no light at the end of the tunnel... and most of all, that committing suicide would put an end to all that pain. And telling me something like "get over yourself", wouldn't snap me out of it, as it was a side effect I had from taking an anti-psychotic drug. Granted, I haven't taken any action towards suicide during that time, as I did find ways to cope with this feeling. But thankfully, I survived it by, one, getting out of the drug, which I had to consult my psychologist. It also helped that my sister gave me a meditation track that I would listen to multiple times each day to help calm down the depression. And third, I made sure to talk with my school therapist, of which I had a few long appointments with her, as after telling my story of what I was going through at the time, she was deeply concerned.

This was back in early 2014, and I did recover from it a few weeks after getting off the drug. I still had levels of depression even afterwards, and there's still a certain extent where I go through depression today. None of it, thankfully, is anywhere close to what I went through back during that period.

Sorry for the long post, and I didn't want to go too much into detail as to what I went through in the past. But my main reason for telling this story here, is that it gave me a better understanding of what suicide may be like. Because if I experienced something this bad and didn't take actions to suicide, I can't imagine what feelings somebody who is truly suicidal may actually be feeling. Moments like this did help me to learn more about mental health in the past five years alone than I have before in my life.

I'm sorry Mr. Magic that you don't quite understand suicide, and that you seem to think it's something people could just snap out of with a few magic words (no pun intended). However, I'd be lying if I said that I was never this ignorant about suicide before. For instance, there was one video I made back in 2008, where I made a suicide joke that came complete with a picture of a dead body with blood on the walls. That was done in bad form, and I do regret making that joke. 

Still, that type of ignorance is a good example of why there's a stigma attached when it comes to mental health. It's that very same reason why certain people who may have depression, or are suicidal, are too afraid to speak up, as they may fear being judged... or being told the same thing Mr. Magic would tell them. I could also go into why I feel mental health, in general, needs to be taken more seriously, especially here in the United States, as it is just as important as physical health. But, that's a different political tirade I won't go into, so I'll just leave it at that.
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